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today the campaign launched a new five minute long mini attack ad. >> i really feel in my heart people need to know what are m romney did in 1994. >> one day with had a job, next day we didn't. >> we'd been bought and sold in the past. we never had a problem. we were always a business that had value. >> when bain capital bought us, that was a whole different story. >> to me mitt romney takes from the poor, the middle class, and gives to the rich. it's just the opposite of robin hood. >> that's the latest of several such ads featuring workers who lost their jobs because of bain company. including newark new jersey mayor corey booker. >> have you had enough of obama's attacks on free enterprise? democrat mayor cory booker of new jersey. >> i have to say from a personal level, i'm not about to sit here
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and indict private equity. >> even his supporters have had enough. >> enough is enough. >> keeping them honest. mayor booker sharply criticized the ads on bain. but the ad left out what else booker said which is critical of both campaigns. >> this kind of stuff is nauseating to me on both sides. it is to the public. enough is enough. stop attacking private equity and jeremiah rights. it undermines what the country should be focused on. >> just about seven hours after that meeting, booker was out with a youtube video telling what seems to be the official line. >> let me be clear. mitt romney has made his business record a center piece of his campaign. he's talked about himself as a job creator. and therefore, it is reasonable and in fact i encourage it for the obama campaign to examine
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that record and discuss it. i have no problem with that. >> by the way, the obama campaign insists they had nothing to do with mayor booker making that correction. you be the judge. moving on. david axelrod echoed the youtube comments. >> really his chief credential for running for office, he never talks about his years as massachusetts governor. i think for good reason. they weren't stellar years. this is his argument. i was a businessman. i can lead the economy. so it behooves us to ask what did you do. and some of these cases are disturbing and deserve to be looked at. >> when asked about the booker affair, president obama echoed what axelrod said. >> governor romney, his calling card for why he thinks he should be president is his business experience. he's not touting his experience in massachusetts. he's saying i'm a business guy and i know how to fix it and this is his business.
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and when you're president as opposed to the head of a private equity firm, then your job is not simply to maximize profits. your job is to figure out how everybody in the country has a fair shot. >> president obama essentially doubled down on the bain attacks today saying this is not a distraction from the campaign. this is going to be a center piece of the campaign. at the same time critics say the attacks on bain are hypocriti l hypocritical. the previous ad came out when the president was at the home of this guy, tony james. he's the head of blackstone. an equity firm. he likens bain to the head vampire. there's the contractidiction.
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joining me tonight, spokesman ben labold. how can president obama attack mitt romney on his time at bain highlighting only times when bain cost company jobs and at the same time hold high priced fund raisers with the head of another private equity firm that's done work with blackstone group in his own administration? >> well, you know, mitt romney hasn't been -- he hasn't been forthright with the american people about what he did during his tenure and what his goals were. he's been campaigning across the country telling people he was a job creator. that's because he -- his partners have admitted that the goal was wealth creation for themselves. >> right. but that's -- >> it wasn't a focus on the middle class families across the country. it was wealth creation. >> private equity is about wealth creation for investors.
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that's not what he's saying, but that's what it's about. why is it okay for the president's private equity supporters to bankrupt companies and put people out of work but it's not okay for romney's equity firm to do that? >> who agree with his vision of building an economy that's built to last. where hard work and responsibility are rewarded. where everybody from main street to wall street plays -- >> you said yourself -- you yourself said that's not what private equity is about yet the president is receiving money from private equity firms. >> who believe to put in place the protections to ensure we never had a financial crisis like in 2008 and middle class families are not held hostage. governor romney would repeal those protections. the fact is -- >> you're not answering any of the question. i'm trying to figure out what is
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difference between bain and romney's company and private equity firms the president is taking money from. >> well, here are e the facts, anderson. governor romney has based his candidacy for the oval office on his tenure as a corporate buyout specialist. he says that's the record we should evaluate. that that's the type of economic philosophy he would bring into the oval office. and we took a look at the record. we took a look at the fact he loaded up companies with debt across the country. this case of amped in indiana. 250 workers lost their jobs. romney and his partners came in. they loaded the company up with debt. laid off all of the workers, forced them to reapply for their jobs. security guards bolted the doors. they went through the -- >> i get it. people were laid off. >> benefits were stripped down. >> yeah. but supporters -- but cory booker quote, 23 you look at the
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totality of bain capital's record they've done a lot to grow businesses. do you not agree with that? >> you know what mayor booker also said? >> but do not not agree with that? you're picking and choosing what companies you the focus on bain capital. >> we're not questioning romney's right to run a business the way he saw fit. or at the firm generally. >> but you are. when you're describe b private equity -- >> the lessons in values and experiences that governor romney took from that and whether he'd apply the same lessons and values to the oval office. it's not focused on economic security for the middle class. >> cory booker also said both sides on this is nauseating. don't these ads that you're running -- don't they attack his personal values?
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you know, people saying he's the opposite of robin hood. you have one where one person says you can tell by the way he talks and acts he doesn't care about the middle class and lower class people. isn't that personal? >> you know what mayor booker also said was in a discussion of romney's tenure was legitimate. >> yes that's what he said in the edited version you tweeted out. in the original comments that's what he said. isn't -- do you deny that you're engaging in any kind of personal attacks on mitt romney? or is it okay to do that? i'm not saying it's not. >> governor romney believes that any discussion of his record is automatically negative campaigning which i think tells you something about his record. he's put this forward as his economic record. we'll talk about the president's economic record. we were losing 750,000 jobs a
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month when he entered. it's resurgent. we'll talk about the president's record and we'll talk about governor romney's record. >> ben labolt, i appreciate you being on. thanks. >> thanks. >> let's try to get more answers. political analyst david gergen. the obama campaign doubling down making mitt romney's record at bain a focal point of the campaign. this is a center piece of the campaign. is that a mistake at this point in the campaign? >> it certainly is a surprise, anderson. the president enters this fray with a lot of evidence that shows that bain is a respected company. he's got people in his staff starting with this chief of staff, a wonderful man, who has helped direct a private equity firm. he's got people in his fund raising. but steven ratnor has written
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that he's had a lot of work with bain capital. he says he has written that bain capital is a very respectable even eminent private equity firm. he goes on to say bain capital has created an incalculable number of jobs -- >> which is what cory booker said. >> exactly. let's remember. many of them are foundations. they're pension funds. they're university endowment. not just fat cats. this is the way capitalism works. it's fair game to go and talk about whether bain had a private equity firm is good background to be a good program or not. to make it the center piece of his campaign is a big surprise. to double down the way he did today was a major surprise to me. >> do you think it gets interpreted as him attacking private equity? >> no.
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i think it gets interpreted as something more than that. especially in the business community. there has been as you know an anxiety, a fear by many of what they view as hostility. and to create job creation, successful ceos do. that's part of what their job is. and they help create the jobs. it's worth remembering how many democrats in the past have supported private enterprise. pauls songus from massachusetts said you cannot love employees and hate employers. and the message that many are taking away from the president's campaign right now is not just about bain capital. it's about people who are in private sector. i'm not sure that's what they mean to communicate, but that's how it's coming across. >> is it a surprise the obama campaign is not -- because mitt romney's saying is he creates
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jobs. they could point to when he was governor and say look, there's no evidence of this. or they ranged very low in job creation. you don't hear that as the drum beat. >> that's right. i think this a trauma -- that the attack on bain capital is the beginning narrative that e the -- enhancing his rich friends. he doesn't care about middle class americans. so you run the ad with the person calling romney a vampire. that's a personal attack. i'm sorry, but it is. the larger point also is this. when cory booker spoke yesterday and the first time he spoke, he gave expression to what a lot of
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people think. there are too many distractions in this campaign. we need to know about issues. we're not hearing that. we're hearing all these marginal issues. we need to get to the heart of what the next presidency is going to be about. >> david gergen, thank you very much. let us know what you think. we're on twitter and facebook. i'll be tweeting tonight. a lot of people tweeting tonight about the light sentence that dharun ravi received with his roommate tyler clementi who ultimately committed suicide. up next, why ravi only got 30 days, not ten years as some had wanted in the prosecution. and the message this sends about bullying, if any. details ahead. [ male announcer ] what if that hemorrhoid pain
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tonight, 30 days dharun ravi sentenced today for crimes that could have sent him to prison for ten years after his roommate tyler clementi committed suicide. ravi wept at the hearing but the judge said quote, i haven't heard you apologize once. he used a web cam to spy on his roommate with a man. days later he took his own life. he was accused of bias and intimidation and other charges invasion of privacy and tampering with witnesses and evidence. the jury did not say he intimidated clementclementi. he also was convicted of invading his privacy. sentenced to 30 days in jail. three years probation, 300 hours of community service. in addition, he's going to have to undergo counseling. >> dharun's dreams are shattered. and he has been living for the past 20 months. it is hard for me to say but my
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son is sitting here physically alive in front of everyone's eyes. while i'm shouting his pain. i love you. as a mother i feel that dharun has rf really suffered enough. >> tyler clementi's mother was also moved to tears. >> he never really knew tyler. not the kind, smart, articulate, humble, funny, talented can be caring, thoughtful, generous, trustworthy, and dependable tyler was. all he found out was that tyler was gay. >> late today prosecutors said they'll be appealing the sentence. want to talk about it with governor mcgrieve vi who stepped down after announcing he was
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gay. and marcia clark. you wrote saying he did not think he should get a ten year sentence. is the sentence he got, you think, appropriate? >> anderson, these circumstances are so tragic. and james clementi wrote a piece talking about his pain. and to hear ravi's mother and tyler's mother. the entirety of the circumstance is there's so much pain and tragedy. i think the point i was making is that a jail sentence per se, a long jail sentence wouldn't serve the purposes of retribution. wouldn't educate society as to homophobia. so in all of this, the raw emotio emotions, the pain, such that no one feels good. perhaps no one ought to feel
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good about what happened. i think what the judge tried to do who i know to be a very decent, thoughtful man, is to say you need to spend some time in jail. you need to have community service and the stay through probation we'll watch for you for a three year period. and i think ironically the prosecution in this case, ravi obviously went through this maelstrom of raw anger. and in a tragic way, the system worked in in so far as we have brought through the judicial process to the light of homophobia and the problems of bullying. in addition to that, ravi has been held accountable for his actions. and the judge did what he
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believed to be appropriate and fair. glen doesn't react. either way i think he examined his conscience. >> i think a lot of people don't understand the intimidation charge, it was that tyler clementi felt intimidated. you think this was too lenient, marcia? >> i do. and here's why. i understand that there's no sentence that could possibly cure ravi of any homophobia he may have. i'm not saying he is homophobic. however, we do know that he first found out the victim was gay and then planted the web spy cam in the dorm room. where this victim had a right to feel that he was in a private area. and i think my point is that there needs to be a message sent regarding personal responsibility. we have these powerful technological tools today that we are not -- we need to get up to speed with what these tools
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can do. and the kind of bullying impact they create. this is a situation very similar to someone going into a crowded theater and yelling fire. someone's going to get hurt. and obviously someone did. and the fact that this defendant didn't play it out accurately or didn't necessarily -- was not able to foretell that the victim would commit suicide doesn't absolve him of a hideous act. and i think 30 days is not enough to show he's being punished for the lack of responsibility. >> one of ravi's lawyers said he believes ravi was being demonized by the gay community. do you think that's true? >> no, i don't think that's true. i think the gay community is justifiably frustrated with a legacy of homophobia. and the criminal justice system not always being responsive. here actually the criminal justice system and the prosecution, the judge did a job
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and the system worked. it's very frustrating because what happened in this case is that ravi's actions -- i work with jail. and there are people in jail that received much less time than ten years. so what's difficult is that many of us are so frustrated by what happened to tyler clementi that i think people are attempting to draw a link between what ravi did originally and the tragedy. i think what judge burrman was trying to do is look at the instances and examine what he believed was appropriate to address ravi. >> we got to leave it there. governor mcgreevey, we appreciate you being on. marcia clark as well. up next, why a government task force is now saying a cancer screening test does more harm than good. what you need to know about this kind of a cancer and whether or not you should be screened at all. we'll be back. she quit.
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breaking news tonight about a widely used prostate cancer screening test. it's the psa test. today it was ruled against for psa testing for men of any age. they say the procedures following may be more harmful. for years the community has been concerned the process was hurting more men than it was helping. we should point out the association does not agree with today's recommendation. i spoke with dr. mukurji author of a biography of cancer. >> doctor, the task force that put out these guidelines said the tests do more harm than good. how so? >> well, the problem is that
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it's an in-exact and inefficient test. there are men who will have cancer that don't get picked up. or men that don't have cancer who do get picked up by this test. then these men will have biopsies and surgery all of which are invasive and this will cause more harm than good for these men in which the cancer wouldn't kill them. >> hasn't the death rate from prostate cancer fallen since this test was first introduced in 1989? >> that's true. that's a correlation. that still doesn't prove the test itself is responsible for the fall in the death rates. we think -- we suppose that some of it is actually indeed due to psa screening. what's happened is it's like a mandate. what it's telling us is go back and do the science and find the
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men at risk. i am 100% confident if you focus on the science we would find out which men are at risk. what the task force is saying go back and do the science and add that to the test. now you get a real test that works. >> in the meantime, should men stop getting prostate cancer screenings altogether? >> my recommendation is if you have any high risk features like a family history of prostate cancer or you're in ask discussion with your oncologist or urologist, then that's the right group to screen. once again, the task force is saying we need a slightly more refined way of screening men for prostate cancer. just asking every person to undergo the screening is likely to do more harm than good. >> there are some who say without testing, people won't know they have prostate cancer until they have symptoms and at that point the cancer is too far advanced. >> in certain cases, this is the
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case. but again, the problem with the testing i've said before is it's picking up too many men in whom the cancer is harmless. you've got to find a more scientific and more refined way of predicting if you have a positive psa, can we do more to make sure you are in a high risk group or not. >> thank you so much. >> my pleasure. thank you very much. >> there's a lot more happening. isha is here with a "360" news bulletin. >> nato leaders in chicago have accepted president obama's exit strategy for afghanistan which calls for withdrawal of troops by the end of 2014. there were more demonstrations in chicago today. police say they were mostly peaceful. dozens were injured yesterday. a rebound on wall street today. the dow posted its biggest gain in more than a month surging 135
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points. the s&p adding 21, the nasdaq gaining 68. one of babe ruth's baseball jerseys has sold for $4.4 million at auction in california. that's the most ever paid for a piece of sports memorabilia. you a baseball fan? >> no. thought it was kind of cool though. >> you weren't paying attention? >> i was. i was writing something but i know the story. fascinating. i wouldn't pay that much money for it. >> no. okay. moving on. you weren't paying attention but you did a good fake. >> all right. see you later. bye. tonight a pastor's sermon is triggering outrage. he told his congregation he's found a way to quote, get rid of all the lesbians and queers. to put them in a fence and watch them all die. that's next.
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a north carolina pastor recently made news when he advocated, quote, cracking the wrist of your son if he displayed feminine behavior and also said fathers should give a son a good punch. after confronted about those, john harris said he was joking. said he was misunderstood. today another pastor is making headlines for comments he made. charles worley is the pastor's name. that's him making the sermon. in the sermon, he blasted president obama for supporting same-sex marriage. he didn't stop there. he told his parishioners what he
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would do to quote, get rid of anyone who isn't heterosexual in this country. >> if our president said it was all right for two women to marry or two men to marry, i tell you right now. i was disappointed bad, but i tell you right there. it's as sorry as you can get. the bible's against it. god's against it. if you got any sense, you're against it. i had to -- i figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers. but i couldn't get it past the congress. build a great, big, large fence. 150 or 100 miles long. put all the lesbians in there. fly over and drop food. do the same thing with the
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queers and homosexuals and have the fence electrified so they can't get out. in a few years they'll die out. do you know why? they can't reproduce. >> he did not stop there. he went on to say this. >> i tell you right now. somebody said who you going to vote for? i ain't going to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover. you said did you mean to say that? you better believe i did. god have mercy. it makes me puking sick. >> clearly he is against it. his church has now removed the sermon from the website. though during the sermon you could hear people shouting amen. he's preaching about putting them in electrified cages. he might have put himself in legal jeopardy with that sermon. banned charities and churches
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from endorsing political candidates. they are to follow that law to keep their tax exempt. we also don't know if worley knows about this exposure. when we called to invite him by phone, the phone rang busy. to join me is reverend welton gaddy. does this sermon about waiting for them to die, is there anything christian about that? >> i see nothing christian about it. nothing american about it. in fact, anderson, it is about as contradictory to a -- as you can imagine. and it violates everything we understand about the constitution and its affirmation of diversity and freedom for people to live out their
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identity. >> from a religious standpoint, there are passages in the old testament that clearly seem to be against same-sex relationships. how do you square that with your understanding of the bible and christianity? >> well, anderson, you're asking a question that would take the rest of your program to answer. it gets into biblical interpretation. and i don't think that's what you want right now. but let me put it this way. there are texts in all sacred scriptures that if you rip out of their context and let them stand alone give out a message that is contradictory to the whole sweep of truth in the bible. that's what happens with many of these text. they are lifted out of context. lifted out of a culture completely different from ours. and then preached on with a hateful message and a repulsive
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kind of exclusivism. and in reality, they are a part of a book the whole purpose of which is to reveal the love of god who wants us to love each other and not attempt to -- but to show mutual respect for every individual and lo each other and cooperate with each other. that's also what our government is about. so in one swoop, this angry minister managed to discredit from his pulpit both the constitution of the united states and the compassion that we find in the bible. and additionally, he did a very dangerous thing by planting seeds of hatred in sick minds that in the right circumstances can act on them and do the kind
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of violence that has no place in our world. >> areva, he's advocating about voting or talks about what he plans to do and vote against. is this a violation of the church's tax exempt status? >> you raise a good point. you're absolutely correct in order to enjoy the tax exempt status, they are prohibited for advocated for or against any political candidate. we heard clearly this pastor make a statement about his opposition to president obama. so i think he's on thin ice here. and, you know, this whole hate crime issue or hate speech that we're listening to, reprehensible, inflammatory, and clearly as reverend gaddy said, just has the ability to plant the seeds of hate that could lead to violence against homosexuals and violence even against the president. really dangerous language from this minister in a pulpit. and using that pulpit to incite
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hate is dangerous. >> we've seen in the wake of the vote there make these kind of comments. do you feel, though -- do you feel the arc in history is moving toward equality or backsliding? >> no. i absolutely feel that it's moving towards equality. and i think that's one reason that you see such a spike in the hyper kind of rhetoric we're hearing from them. for a long time, people believed in the religious freedom clauses to the constitution because if they were christians they felt kind of winking at each other, yeah, we can believe that. we're always going to be in the majority and this is about us anyway. now we live in the most pluralistic nation in the world, the kind of world and nation which our founders thankfully
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envisioned. and people who want to -- you know, most theocrats want to be theo. when they see it doesn't carry the weight they want it to carry and they can't stir up all of the opposition enough to defeat issues they don't want defeated, they panic and they begin to want a world in which the only people allowed to live -- live, much less from freedom, are people just like them. >> reverend gaddy i appreciate you being on. areva martin as well. we'll be right back. a 50% annua. and who doesn't want 50% more cash? ugh, the baby. huh! and then the baby bear said, "i want 50% more cash in my bed!" phhht! 50% more cash is good ri... what's that. ♪ you can spell. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card.
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my defeat by a stoner. >> do you feel that you have a slight advantage because you're now making your third appearance as a contestant on jeopardy? >> normally i would think that. but i did so badly with the buzzer last time against cheech marin that after the first one i thought i knew the secret. but now i have no idea. >> cheech clued me in. hitting the button with the index finger. >> i think you were doing the index finger. that's right. >> i learned that from a track coach when i was in high school. the stopwatch timer. it's a faster reflex with the index finger. >> this time i decide to use his method. >> i'm going with cheech marin's finger opposed to thumb. alex trebek gives me final tips. >> the secret is categories. if you know the categories you'll do well. >> it's not that easy.
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it's this. it's this. >> you and the signaling device and the clue must be one. then the game will be won. >> good luck. >> it's alex trebek. i'm so excited. alex trebek. i'm very excited. could not be more thrilled. now i don't care if i win or lose. i had a moment with alex trebek. >> my competition is nbc's kelly o'donnell and new york times columnist friedman. are they jeopardy smart? >> i say relax. have a fun time. but i want to destroy them. i want to destroy my competition. i'm very competitive. >> once the game starts -- >> warm rhyming term for a place with a strong wi-fi connection. >> it call goes quickly. >> who is eliot spitzer? >> who is thomas jefferson? >> who is the mayflower madam. >> you're the only one on the
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plus side. enjoy that while we pause. >> after the first round, i was feeling good. but then i stumble. >> anderson? >> what is ibm? >> no. >> what is halliburton? >> i was searching for the daily doubles but one stumped me. >> life on a honolulu army post just before the pearl harbor attack. >> i don't even know what it means. >> i'm not ashamed to admit i want to win. i get nervous when tom friedman getting things right. but i quickly find my rhythm again until finally victory. >> and it brings you up to $50,000 and your charity claimed for the trevor project. >> so, yeah, i won. i won jeopardy. yep.
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i'm again a jeopardy champion. after i lost to cheech marin i had to take it off the business cards. now it's back on. >> thanks for being back. i have to thank you. i feel i was only able to win because i used the technique you passed down to me after you clearly destroyed me. the index finger. how do you learn better to do the index finger than the thumb on the buzzer? >> from a track coach with the stopwatch. he said that was faster. i always remembered that. >> i tested it. i did both during the game. and i ended up with the index finger and i think you were right. i feel somewhat vindicated because i beat tom friedman, three time pulitzer prize winner. but it will forever be a stain that i lost so badly to you. >> sometimes you get shutout, you know what i mean? you come back the next day. >> no offense, but every time i tell people that i lost to you,
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they seem surprised. probably as surprised i was because i think having watched some of your movies in the past, they maybe think you wouldn't be so fast. they don't realize how smart you are and how quick you are. >> well, thank you. i'm not as quick as i used to be. you do lose a step. i noticed that last time i played. the answer's there somewhere. but it's all reaction. everybody knows most of the answers, it's who gets in there first. >> there is a zen thing with, like, getting in the rhythm of the buzzer and trebek finishes saying something and to try to buzz in. it's all about the buzzer to me. >> it's all about a the buzzer. you got to get in first. and it's also trusting go with your first instinct. you don't really have time for a second instinct. >> i would maybe like a rematch against you some day. >> i'd love to.
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i need the community service hours knocked off. >> well, listen. maybe we'll try to set it up through jeopardy. maybe they'll -- i still think they should have all the people who won in the dumbed down celebrity version play against each other to be the ultimate winner. i hope to play against you some day. >> i would love to do it. next time you're in l.a. come see me. we'll spar. >> thank you so much, cheech. >> my pleasure, man. >> he is very smart and kick. coming up. finally there are candles just for men. the ridiculist is next. [ banker ] mike and brenda found a house that they really wanted.
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time now for the ridiculist. now we're dipping into the why didn't i think of that file in something so brilliant and at the same time an idea that solves one of the biggest dilemmas in history. how do i get my basement to smell like a two by four without filling it with two by fours? ladies and gentlemen, especially gentlemen, i give you man candles. yankee candles has a line created just for men. men don't give a crap about candles, you're thinking. maybe you have a point. maybe that's because no one thought of men's specific needs. taking a pictures of candles
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next to a football. makes a lot of sense. actually it's just for sent. that is one of them. it's described like this. the scent of freshly plained wood evokes the sense of confidence and quality. i'm more confident thinking of sawdust. then we have riding mower. that sounds good. first down, a combination of orange, leather, and vediver. the long roots of east indian grass. thank you dictionary.com. and mantown. quote, escape to the man cave with this masculine blend of spices, woods, and musk. judging by the label it smells like someone maybe watching tv? not sure i get that one. yankee candles say men make up 30% of its customer base. as far as i know, they haven't broken it down to see how many of those 30% are men buying lazy last-minute gifts for women.
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that seems to be besides the point. the response has been awesome. and by that our affiliate found an awesome guy to wax poe etic. take it away. >> yeah. guy going to the office type, you know, not working out in a construction field type thing. >> but wait. i have to know. which is his favorite? will it be two by four, riding mower, first down, or mantown? >> preferably the first down over the mantown. yeah. football fan too. that helps. >> there you go. first down. as it turns out, smaller companies have been trying to tap into this market. original man candle for instance, has draft beer, pot roast, and road kill scented offerings. can't you smell the road kill? but big candle has been neglecting the needs for men far too long. i applaud the strides being taken. it's one small candle for man, one giant leap for man